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Re: [PROPOSAL] ARM/FDT: passing multiple binaries to a kernel

by Rob Herring

Adding Dennis for a distro perspective. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell(a)citrix.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2013-09-03 at 17:00 -0500, Rob Herring wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Andre Przywara >> <andre.przywara(a)linaro.org> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > a normal Linux kernel currently supports reading the start and end address >> > of a single binary blob via the FDT's /chosen node. >> > This will be interpreted as the location of an initial RAM disk. >> > >> > The Xen hypervisor itself is a kernel, but needs up to _two_ binaries for >> > proper operation: a Dom0 Linux kernel and it's associated initrd. >> > On x86 this is solved via the multiboot protocol used by the Grub >> > bootloader, which supports to pass an arbitrary number of binary modules to >> > any kernel. >> > >> > Since in the ARM world we have the versatile device tree, we don't need to >> > implement the mulitboot protocol. >> >> But surely there would be some advantage of reuse by using the >> multi-boot protocol since Xen, grub, and OS tools already support it >> for x86. > > Multiboot is pretty x86 specific (although MB2 has a MIPS port) and > covers more stuff than we strictly require (e.g. on x86 it has > requirements around which processor mode you enter in, has paging > enabled etc). > >> > So I'd like to propose a new binding which denotes binary modules a kernel >> > can use at it's own discretion. >> > The need is triggered by the Xen hypervisor (which already uses a very >> > similar scheme), but the approach is deliberately chosen to be as generic as >> > possible to allow future uses (like passing firmware blobs for devices or >> > the like). >> > Credits for this go to Ian Campbell, who started something very similar [1] >> > for the Xen hypervisor. The intention of this proposal is to make this >> > generic and publicly documented. >> >> Can you describe how you see the boot flow working starting with OS >> installer writes kernel, initrd, xen and ??? to disk. > > Kernel and initrd are written to /boot in the usual way (probably from > kernel.deb or whatever). Xen would also normally come from a distro > package (also in /boot). > >> How does the bootloader know what to load? > > It's in the bootloader config, e.g. boot.scr or grub.cfg, which are > either hand written or produced by the distros tooling. > > grub on ARM could consume the same stanzas as are used by grub on x86 to > boot Xen (which are produced by update-grub): > echo 'Loading Xen 4.1-amd64 ...' > multiboot /xen-4.1-amd64.gz placeholder > echo 'Loading Linux 3.10-2-amd64 ...' > module /vmlinuz-3.10-2-amd64 placeholder root=/dev/mapper/disks-root ro resume=/dev/mapper/disks-swap quiet > echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' > module /initrd.img-3.10-2-amd64 > > Since there is no multiboot on ARM (and never will be) this is safe. > > If multiboot ever does come to ARM it will necessarily be multiboot2 > which uses a different keyword. Right, this is just a text file with a list of binaries. It is not really the multiboot spec. There is no reason for this part to be different for grub on ARM. There is a big advantage to reusing the distro side tooling. If there isn't really much reuse on the bootloader side, then I'm fine with a different bootloader to Xen interface. I would like to hear that from folks working on grub though. > For u-boot Andre has proposed some syntactic sugar over the "fdt" > command to make boot.scr more trivial to use. We would of course need to > implement support for using it in the relevant distro tools (but they > tend to be very distro/machine specific already, e.g. Debian's > flash-kernel) And being machine specific is a PITA. flash-kernel is certainly not something we want to expand on. There is not much love for boot.scr either. There is work to address what are not really machine differences, but largely vendor u-boot differences: http://www.mail-archive.com/u-boot@lists.denx.de/msg119025.html One option for u-boot which already supports syslinux style menu files is to adopt the syslinux multiboot parsing support: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Doc/mboot We need to back-up and consider what this looks like in the end for all the pieces and get input from folks on grub, UEFI, and armv8. The UEFI answer may be this is a grub problem. For armv8, this proposal does match up well as the kernel boot interface for v8 is DT. Despite some claims, ACPI will not completely replace DT because of this. Rob

12 years, 11 months

Re: [PROPOSAL] ARM/FDT: passing multiple binaries to a kernel

by Grant Likely

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:22:13 +0100, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell(a)citrix.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 11:13 +0100, Grant Likely wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Rob Herring <robherring2(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> For u-boot Andre has proposed some syntactic sugar over the "fdt" > > >> command to make boot.scr more trivial to use. We would of course need to > > >> implement support for using it in the relevant distro tools (but they > > >> tend to be very distro/machine specific already, e.g. Debian's > > >> flash-kernel) > > > > > > And being machine specific is a PITA. flash-kernel is certainly not > > > something we want to expand on. There is not much love for boot.scr > > > either. There is work to address what are not really machine > > > differences, but largely vendor u-boot differences: > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/u-boot@lists.denx.de/msg119025.html > > > > > > One option for u-boot which already supports syslinux style menu files > > > is to adopt the syslinux multiboot parsing support: > > > > > > http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Doc/mboot > > > > Even building it into U-Boot is problematic because it leaves older > > machines out in the cold. Leif's port of Grub to U-Boot is far more > > interesting since the distro can now be in control of the code that > > loads the images and jumps into the kernel/hypervisor. > > AIUI this is not being developed any further? Last I checked the patches have been posted for merging, but it is stalled on the Grub maintainer. I believe he wanted to fix a bug on the raspberry pi before merging. Leif would know more. LEG isn't actively working on it anymore since UEFI is the priority, but I wouldn't call it abandoned. > > > We need to back-up and consider what this looks like in the end for > > > all the pieces and get input from folks on grub, UEFI, and armv8. The > > > UEFI answer may be this is a grub problem. For armv8, this proposal > > > does match up well as the kernel boot interface for v8 is DT. Despite > > > some claims, ACPI will not completely replace DT because of this. > > > > Yes, for UEFI it is absolutely an OS loader problem. UEFI provides an > > API and runtime environment. Grub is in general moving towards a boot > > menu system and a tool for loading images. Actual booting however > > should be done by a separate OS loader application. For Linux, this > > will be an in-kernel UEFI Stub. > > I'm not sure I follow your distinction between loading the images and > "actual booting". If grub loads the images and Linux stub does the > actual booting how does this stub locate the images which grub loaded? (Note: this isn't implemented yet, but is in progress) The DTB will need to be passed via the UEFI system table. Initrd is passed by modifying the dtb with linux,initrd-* properties in the device tree. In the Xen case, I think the original proposal is conceptually sound. I'll quibble about a couple of the details, but I'll address those with a reply to the original proposal. It makes perfect sense to use the same mechanism as the initrd properties to tell the kernel about additional blobs. > Or are you saying the stub should load the initramfs itself? How does it > know where to find it? Having the kernel in one config file (grub's) and > the initramfs in another (the Linux UEFI stub's) seems likely to result > in things getting out of sync. Having Linux's stub parse the grub CFG is > even less likely to work well IMHO. The stub has the ability to load both the dtb and initrd itself by adding "dtb=" and "initrd=" arguments, but it is currently limited to loading images from the same filesystem that the kernel was loaded from. GRUB (or gummiboot/refind/etc) is potentially more flexible. > > For Xen I would recommend taking the > > Linux EFI stub code and doing the same thing. There really isn't a > > need for a multiboot spec when you can rely on a runtime execution > > environment for setting things up exactly as you want them. > > If this works for Linux on EFI then I see no reason it could work for > Xen on EFI (assuming my questions above are just a result of my > misunderstanding something) > > But... Xen also wants to support non-server and therefore non-EFI > systems i.e. u-boot. We also want to support v7 where EFI is not a given > even for servers AIUI. I was only responding to the UEFI question, but that aside, I don't see a problem with adding properties to the DT for telling Xen where they are. > Given that I think it is a given that Xen will have some sort of > protocol along these lines, for use in these environments even if it > does the EFI stub thing on EFI systems. The question is shall we make it > more general and useful to others or just go our own way? I'd prefer to > do the former. Yes, make it general. GRUB and the EFI stub will use it. g.

12 years, 11 months

Panda UEFI link error

by David Long

I discovered a link problem with uefi-next when building for panda. Apparently a couple new functions need to be added to the platform-specific helper code for panda. As suggested by Leif I will reply with the patch. -dl

12 years, 12 months

Re: UEFI configuration on ARM VE TC2

by Sudeep KarkadaNagesha

Hi Vijay, On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Vijay Kilari <vijay.kilari(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I could now able to boot the kernel from MMC card with UEFI. > However, updating TC2 from u-boot to uefi, only one core is booting up. > Logs are below > > [ 70.779282] CPU0: thread -1, cpu 0, socket 1, mpidr 80000100 > [ 70.779321] Setting up static identity map for 0x804b85f0 - 0x804b8648 > [ 71.837336] CPU1: failed to boot: -38 > [ 72.841858] CPU2: failed to boot: -38 > [ 73.846383] CPU3: failed to boot: -38 > [ 74.850924] CPU4: failed to boot: -38 > [ 74.850958] Brought up 1 CPUs > One possible reason for this is the setting in firmware board.txt If you disable CONFIG_MCPM in kernel, you need to disable bit[12] of SCC: 0x700in board.txt to use the legacy/sysflag style of booting secondary cpus. Regards, Sudeep

13 years

Re: UEFI configuration on ARM VE TC2

by Leif Lindholm

Hi Vijay, The Linaro boot-architecture mailing list is a better forum for questions about the Linaro UEFI releases. I have cc:d this email to that list. The reason you do not see TFTP boot as an option is that that is not yet released. We are hoping to do this shortly. It would probably be a good idea for us to mention that in the documentation. I do not recognise the other error message. / Leif On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 05:01:23PM +0530, Vijay Kilari wrote: > Hi Leif Lindholm, > > > I am changing to UEFI from u-boot on my TC2 board. > I have followed the step listed under "Firmware Update" tab from below link > http://releases.linaro.org/13.06/ubuntu/vexpress/ > > After reboot, I see that uefi fails to load kernel image with below log > > > The default boot selection will start in 1 seconds > ERROR: Did not find Linux kernel. > [1] Linaro image on SD card > - VenHw(09831032-6FA3-4484-AF4F-0A000A8D3A82)/HD(1,MBR,0x00000000,0x3F,0x19FC0)/uImage > - Initrd: > VenHw(09831032-6FA3-4484-AF4F-0A000A8D3A82)/HD(1,MBR,0x00000000,0x3F,0x19FC0)/uInitrd > - Arguments: console=ttyAMA0,38400n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 > rootwait ro androidboot.console=ttyAMA0 mmci.fmax=12000000 > - FDT: VenHw(09831032-6FA3-4484-AF4F-0A000A8D3A82)/HD(1,MBR,0x00000000,0x3F,0x19FC0)/v2p-ca15-tc2.dtb > - LoaderType: Linux kernel with Local FDT > ----------------------- > Global FDT Config > - VenHw(09831032-6FA3-4484-AF4F-0A000A8D3A82)/HD(1,MBR,0x00000000,0x3F,0x19FC0)/v2p-ca15-tc2.dtb > ----------------------- > [a] Boot Manager > [b] Shell > [c] Reboot > [d] Shutdown > Start: a > [1] Add Boot Device Entry > [2] Update Boot Device Entry > [3] Remove Boot Device Entry > [4] Update FDT path > [5] Return to main menu > Choice: 3 > [1] Linaro image on SD card > Delete entry: 1 > [1] Add Boot Device Entry > [2] Update Boot Device Entry > [3] Remove Boot Device Entry > [4] Update FDT path > [5] Return to main menu > Choice: 1 > [1] VenHw(E7223039-5836-41E1-B542-D7EC736C5E59) > [2] VenHw(02118005-9DA7-443A-92D5-781F022AEDBB) > [3] VenHw(1F15DA3C-37FF-4070-B471-BB4AF12A724A) > [4] VenHw(CC2CBF29-1498-4CDD-8171-F8B6B41D0909) > [5] VenHw(09831032-6FA3-4484-AF4F-0A000A8D3A82) > Select the Boot Device: > > > When I try to delete and add new boot entry, I dont see option for TFTP option > unlike it is mentioned in > > https://wiki.linaro.org/ARM/UEFI#Configuring_A5.2C_TC1_and_TC2 > > Can you please help me in configuring it?. > > In fact, when I try to add an entry, uefi asks for kernel start > address like below > > [1] Add Boot Device Entry > [2] Update Boot Device Entry > [3] Remove Boot Device Entry > [4] Update FDT path > [5] Return to main menu > Choice: 1 > [1] VenHw(E7223039-5836-41E1-B542-D7EC736C5E59) > [2] VenHw(02118005-9DA7-443A-92D5-781F022AEDBB) > [3] VenHw(1F15DA3C-37FF-4070-B471-BB4AF12A724A) > [4] VenHw(CC2CBF29-1498-4CDD-8171-F8B6B41D0909) > [5] VenHw(09831032-6FA3-4484-AF4F-0A000A8D3A82) > Select the Boot Device: 5 > Starting Address of the EFI Application or the kernel: > > What should be the address that I should give here?. Such information is not > available in the wiki page > > Thanks & Regards > Vijay

13 years

RE: ARM 64-bit - UEFI on the AArch64 Models

by Olivier Martin

All the patches required to build UEFI for the ARM Foundation and Base Models have been committed to subversion (revision 14628). The wikipage (https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=ArmPlatfor mPkg/AArch64) has been updated to use the repository instead of the snapshot. It is recommended to apply the patch "Fixed calculation of BaseOfCode in GenFw when the first code section is aligned" (sent on July 16th on the mailing-list). A copy of this patch can be found in ArmPlatformPkg/Documentation/patch/BaseTools-Pending-Patches.patch. patch -p1 < ArmPlatformPkg/Documentation/patches/BaseTools-Pending-Patches.patch The snapshot contains changes to add AArch64 support to EdkShellPkg (required to start UEFI SCT) that is not yet into subversion. The latest version of this patch will be sent soon on the mailing-list. From: Olivier Martin [mailto:olivier.martin@arm.com] Sent: 26 July 2013 21:34 To: edk2-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net; boot-architecture(a)lists.linaro.org Cc: Harry Liebel Subject: ARM 64-bit - UEFI on the AArch64 Models After the UEFI 2.4 specification - that contains the AArch64 (the ARM 64-bit architecture) Binding - was approved last week, I started to send the AArch64 patchset to be reviewed by the different EDK2 maintainers. Because patches are still waiting to be approved and also not all the patches have been sent yet (such as the pre-built binaries and few minor others), I created a snapshot of the latest subversion (svn rev 14505 - Friday 26 Jul 2013) with the AArch64 pathset to make it easier for people to play with UEFI on AArch64 platforms. The main reason of creating a snapshot and not a patch is binary data are not really portable in patch files. This archive is only a short term solution and should not be considered as a release package (some AArch64 patches could diverge from their original revision). The archive will be removed after all the patches will have been accepted by the maintainers. 'Direct' link to the archive: http://sourceforge.net/projects/edk2/files/ARM/aarch64-uefi-rev14505.tgz/dow nload Tutorial to build and run AArch64 EDK2 on the Foundation and Base FVP Model: https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=ArmPlatform Pkg/AArch64 Note: The AArch64 Foundation FVP Model is free to download. So anyone could try to build and run AArch64 UEFI on this Virtual Platform. Thanks, Olivier

13 years

Re: [PROPOSAL] ARM/FDT: passing multiple binaries to a kernel

by Andre Przywara

On 09/04/2013 10:55 AM, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 10:43 +0200, Andre Przywara wrote: > >> I am about to write up a more elaborate technical rationale describing >> the problems with multiboot on ARM: >> >> https://wiki.linaro.org/AndrePrzywara/Multiboot > > Doesn't seem to exist? A search for "mulitboot" doesn't seem to throw up > the one you meant either. Try again now. As mentioned "I am about to write ..." ;-) Thanks, Andre. >>> So, is having a more generic solution really needed? >> >> Not necessarily needed, but useful, I think. As described above I don't >> see any technical obstacles of doing it in a more generic way, so we >> could as well go ahead with this. On x86 from time to time the need for >> additional binaries pops up (early microcode loading, for instance), so >> why not be be prepared. > > I agree. There have also been occasions where people doing > disaggregation have wanted to start multiple initial domains, requiring > additional modules at load time. I don't think being generic and > extensible is costing too much here. > > Ian. >

13 years

constraints on UEFI image link address

by Leif Lindholm

When testing Roy Franz's ARM UEFI stub kernel loader patches on a TC2 platform, the loader (correctly) highlighted an issue that has been lurking unnoticed for a while: the very UEFI image actually makes following the Linux boot protocol impossible. Roy's stub takes the paranoid (and correct) approach of explicitly allocating in UEFI the regions the zImage may need to be relocated to (based on original load address) and that which it will decompress into (based on some masking operations relative to the resulting entry point). It also attempts to allocate a "big enough" region to ensure the decompressed kernel, with BSS, will fit. This operation fails on the TC2 tianocore port, and if basic arithmetic does not fail me, would also fail at least on Samsung Arndale and TI Beagleboard (I have yet to verify). The problem is that on all these platforms, the UEFI binary is linked to execute at or near the start of RAM on the platform. Oliver figured this out for me for TC2, and has promised to look into what would be the best way of resolving this for that platform. On these platforms, kernel decompression may result in overwriting the initial UEFI image in RAM, before ExitBootServices(). While this may work on some platforms, there are no guarantees. This region could even contain code or data required by runtime services. I have updated the (fairly random) list of UEFI port requirements at https://wiki.linaro.org/LEG/Engineering/Kernel/UEFI/BSP But several BSPs will need to change, along with their documentation. / Leif

13 years

Re: Does our EDKII source support MMC/NAND write functionality ?

by Rony Nandy

On Tuesday 30 July 2013 05:21 PM, Khasim Syed Mohammed wrote: > Hi UEFI team, > > We are in the process of evaluating the tianocore EDKII for Android. I > have the same booting on Arndale, but I am unable to find commands or > procedure to flash (raw image) to onboard eMMC / SD cards. It is implemented.Please refer the following wiki page for details https://wiki.linaro.org/Boards/Arndale/Setup/EnterpriseUbuntuServer?action=… > > Can you please confirm if these features are already implemented in > our sources? > > We need this info to estimate the effort for UEFI, kindly confirm at > the earliest. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Khasim Regards Rony.

13 years, 1 month

ARM 64-bit - UEFI on the AArch64 Models

by Olivier Martin

After the UEFI 2.4 specification - that contains the AArch64 (the ARM 64-bit architecture) Binding - was approved last week, I started to send the AArch64 patchset to be reviewed by the different EDK2 maintainers. Because patches are still waiting to be approved and also not all the patches have been sent yet (such as the pre-built binaries and few minor others), I created a snapshot of the latest subversion (svn rev 14505 - Friday 26 Jul 2013) with the AArch64 pathset to make it easier for people to play with UEFI on AArch64 platforms. The main reason of creating a snapshot and not a patch is binary data are not really portable in patch files. This archive is only a short term solution and should not be considered as a release package (some AArch64 patches could diverge from their original revision). The archive will be removed after all the patches will have been accepted by the maintainers. 'Direct' link to the archive: http://sourceforge.net/projects/edk2/files/ARM/aarch64-uefi-rev14505.tgz/dow nload Tutorial to build and run AArch64 EDK2 on the Foundation and Base FVP Model: https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=ArmPlatform Pkg/AArch64 Note: The AArch64 Foundation FVP Model is free to download. So anyone could try to build and run AArch64 UEFI on this Virtual Platform. Thanks, Olivier

13 years, 1 month

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